Comments on: Saving Private Groups: This Time the Mission is the Fan https://datahorde.org/saving-private-groups-this-time-the-mission-is-the-fan/ Join the Horde! Sun, 11 Jun 2023 00:39:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: joey arnold https://datahorde.org/saving-private-groups-this-time-the-mission-is-the-fan/#comment-17402 Sun, 11 Jun 2023 00:39:01 +0000 #comment-17402 In reply to Tony and Aileen.

If you still have problems I might be able to help. But I cannot promise I can help. But you can try to contact me if you want. I have had similar issues.

I have had similar problems where I have lost things online going back to like 1997 from websites like Yahoo emails, AOL instant messenger, Facebook, Xanga, MySpace, YouTube, Geo Cities, Hotmail, Bebo, Diary Land, Live Journal, Google+, Twitter, etc. Many places.

I have spent many years trying to find things online and I might not be an expert but I do try to find things. I do post about it on my blogs and in videos and everything. I will try to continue to search for things. I do want to help other people find things too.

You can email me at [email protected] or my Twitter is twitter.com/joeyarnoldvn and you can find me @ joeyarnoldvn on Facebook and other websites.

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By: Shani Strothers https://datahorde.org/saving-private-groups-this-time-the-mission-is-the-fan/#comment-16543 Wed, 24 May 2023 13:23:06 +0000 #comment-16543 In reply to Biff.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ONECoop/files/Monsanto%20board%20of%20directors.docx

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By: Tony and Aileen https://datahorde.org/saving-private-groups-this-time-the-mission-is-the-fan/#comment-641 Sun, 02 Jan 2022 21:29:19 +0000 #comment-641 I agree there are so many sites that don’t take any notice of feedback and I’ve given up on giving feedback. A good example: I’m looking at buying a pair of electric reclining chairs using my tablet to browse 2 or 3 sites that seem to have good prices I won’t bother to use because a few seconds in they display banners that totally block what I want to see, if I use portrait mode I lose the side information so it’s easier to go to a different site.
As far as Yahoo Groups is concerned my wife and I belonged to a group and there were a lot of photos of us. We’re in our twilight years and we would love to get hold of our photos as they were something to look back on, we had a LOT of fun but unfortunately my computer skills are not great and my chances of getting those photos is very slim.

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By: Sandy https://datahorde.org/saving-private-groups-this-time-the-mission-is-the-fan/#comment-579 Sun, 05 Dec 2021 20:45:52 +0000 #comment-579 Yep, it’s hard to imagine a company that would be any better than Yahoo was at destroying itself.

Were you there for the constant “improvements” to Yahoo mail in early 2000’s that everyone hated and eventually fled from?

Unfortunately this process is ONGOING everywhere on the Internet, as I see it, and the reason for it, I believe is one and simple: IT-companies have to go through a period of development where they employ a BUNCH of IT-people, who (if they do things right) eventually come up with a workable/likable/profitable product.

Then the trouble starts. The best of these people leave and create their own companies. The rest want to stay in the now comfy position they’ve grown to like. BUT there’s not enough to DO for nearly all of them. The only way they can justify their jobs is to keep making constant CHANGES to the site … “IMPROVEMENTS” … over and over ….

What none of them seem to understand is that most of the world sees email and other Internet functionality as a TOOL. It’s just a tool, and when it’s constructed in any relatively optimal form, people want to USE that tool … let me put that, “Use THAT tool”, and NOT have it, then, constantly changing. BUT then what would all the IT department “do”??

Imagine if every time you reached for your hammer from your toolbox it were a different shape, weight, material, on and on! It use to work on nails but now you can only hammer pixels with it. Good GOD.

Yahoo crashed like a 747, straight down, over this. Look at their valuation. The MILLIONS of complaints year after year TOLD them what they were doing wrong, but to no avail … perhaps because the IT people are the first folks to see those complaints (so do they go any further?).

For me this is the story of virtually every internet site. My grocery store HEB had a nice workable web site in the 2012 time frame, which is SOO horribly annoying now (since about 2016)* I HATE it. Same with Home Depot. On and on. I think Lowe’s still does a good job, but they’ve got a “feedback” tab on EVERY page and so it’s no trouble to point out things that are not right. And they FIX it. KUDOS!

My opinion is that once any web site has a workable/profitable/liked implementation, they should let go the “super performers” if they haven’t left already, and keep probably no more than about 5% of “the (merely) good ones” to keep things running smoothly and to consider making changes ONLY AFTER THOROUGHLY POLLING USERS, beta-testing the changes and DITCHING them if unpopular (!!!), and CONSIDER ABOVE ALL THE OLD ADAGE that THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT.

I must have spent many thousands of hours writing/complaining to Yahoo to no avail. I think I can say I was right. AOL and Yahoo “merged”, under Verizon, in 2017 for a tiny declared total percentage of their early 2000’s separate worths. Stephen Colbert said of the merger, “AOL and YAHOO are merging, because nobody likes to die alone”. And so indeed they just this year have, together. What a WASTE.

*The HEB site once had good functionality for searching on PRODUCTS, which of course is what they sell. But, for example, starting at about 2016 they started this thing where you search on a product you want to see if they have, and you get a few kilobytes of the information YOU WANTED, but then A CONTINUING DELUGE of tens of megabytes of “RECIPES”, of all things, with endless (megabytes of) photos, whether you want them or not. 99 PERCENT OF THE DATA THEY SEND YOU IS SUPERFLUOUS, and will quickly use up a data allowance. I’ve told them over and over: why not have a button TO REQUEST recipes instead. NO ONE listens. I don’t use their site. WHAT A WASTE.

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By: Biff https://datahorde.org/saving-private-groups-this-time-the-mission-is-the-fan/#comment-2 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 14:01:04 +0000 #comment-2 One of the issues with Yahoo Groups that is infrequently mentioned is how badly the effort to "modernize" the interface was undertaken. It took a product that was basically a forum or, well, a group, and tried to convert it into a Facebook/twitter style timeline while removing a lot of group search capabilities. (I'm not even mentioning the bugs that were introduced.) As a result, important older content became almost impossible to find, and usage of many groups plummeted. Sure, Yahoo Groups was feeling competitive pressure from other platforms, but you'd be hard pressed to find a way to destroy the platform more effectively than what Yahoo actually implemented.

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